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  Question about how and when to share your views.

  by paul from cleveland in

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  if you had a close relative or friend that told you they were getting baptized as a jw, would you try to influence their decision or just let it go.

  my sister told me recently that she is getting baptized.

  i'm undecided about what to do... if anything.

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  paul from cleveland

  unduly: Undeservedly, not warranted

  
  
  I meant unduly in this sense:

  unduly: to an undue degree; "she was unduly pessimistic about her future"

  undue: Excessive; going beyond that what is natural or sufficient
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  Question about how and when to share your views.

  by paul from cleveland in

  1. jw
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  if you had a close relative or friend that told you they were getting baptized as a jw, would you try to influence their decision or just let it go.

  my sister told me recently that she is getting baptized.

  i'm undecided about what to do... if anything.

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  paul from cleveland

  50? Wow. Do you know what caused her, at this point in her life, to become infatuated enough to want to be baptized?

  Her new husband had been baptized about 20 years ago. He's only been to a handful of meetings in the last 15 of those years but just recently decided he wanted to go back. She's just going along.
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  Question about how and when to share your views.

  by paul from cleveland in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  if you had a close relative or friend that told you they were getting baptized as a jw, would you try to influence their decision or just let it go.

  my sister told me recently that she is getting baptized.

  i'm undecided about what to do... if anything.

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  paul from cleveland

  She's 50
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  Question about how and when to share your views.

  by paul from cleveland in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  if you had a close relative or friend that told you they were getting baptized as a jw, would you try to influence their decision or just let it go.

  my sister told me recently that she is getting baptized.

  i'm undecided about what to do... if anything.

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  paul from cleveland

  Let me ask this question another way:

  If you had a friend getting baptized, what are the first 3 (simple) points you'd share with them? (or questions to ask them a la Reasoning Book style)
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  Question about how and when to share your views.

  by paul from cleveland in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  if you had a close relative or friend that told you they were getting baptized as a jw, would you try to influence their decision or just let it go.

  my sister told me recently that she is getting baptized.

  i'm undecided about what to do... if anything.

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  paul from cleveland

  Yes, she did ask me what I think about it. I told her I would support her decision whatever that is. But that doesn't mean I can't still share a few other thoughts. She's not much of a student, so she's not going to read books with an opposing view.
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  Question about how and when to share your views.

  by paul from cleveland in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  if you had a close relative or friend that told you they were getting baptized as a jw, would you try to influence their decision or just let it go.

  my sister told me recently that she is getting baptized.

  i'm undecided about what to do... if anything.

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  paul from cleveland

  If you had a close relative or friend that told you they were getting baptized as a JW, would you try to influence their decision or just let it go. My sister told me recently that she is getting baptized. I'm undecided about what to do... if anything. She said she'll "still talk to me" even if she gets baptized but I'm sure that won't happen since my brother is a very 'by the book' elder and will reign her in. I think that I should speak now or forever hold my peace. I don't want to unduly influence her, but perhaps just share a few points to present a little more balanced view of what she's really getting in to. What would you do?
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  the wt 1989

  by Adrianoblue in

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  i just read a quote from our poster "albert einstein".

  he wrote the wt from 1989 stated that armageddon will occur within the 20th centurie.. ist that information correct????.

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  paul from cleveland

  Thanks Black Sheep. Unbelievable. Do you have more recent examples as well?
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  the wt 1989

  by Adrianoblue in

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  i just read a quote from our poster "albert einstein".

  he wrote the wt from 1989 stated that armageddon will occur within the 20th centurie.. ist that information correct????.

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  paul from cleveland

  That's unbelievable! Are there other examples of blatant editing like that?
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  Proof Jehovah's Witnesses have been declining for nearly 20 years? (At least in the US, Canada, Australia and New Zealand)

  by slimboyfat in

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  see the tables on pages 124 and 125 of this book:.

  http://books.google.co.uk/books?hl=en&lr=&id=mtw90ykkb3gc&oi=fnd&pg=pa117&dq=scientology+jehovah%27s+stark&ots=0-yvd6jk_o&sig=vualoe-l3bxezaqktnbfhpsdj8u#v=onepage&q=scientology%20jehovah's%20stark&f=false.

  admittedly these statistics don't measure the same thing official watchtower statistics do (i.e.

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  paul from cleveland

  Who cares if they're shrinking or growing. The only thing that matters is if they're teaching the truth or not. At certain times in history, there were only a few or even one person pleasing God.
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  modern day adam

  by Adrianoblue in

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  there is something really bugging me at the moment, and i`m feeling being on the verge of a big depression.. first of all excuse me for possibible language mistakes.

  english isn`t my native speech.. during my approx.

  9 years as a jw (including the 2 years of bible study), i never had one single date with a sister!!!

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  paul from cleveland

  I see myself in what you write.